Lets work our way up the coast, really long and probably boring....
Posted by Jackstraw on 8/25/2010, 12:41 am
Some asked about local Mets, well the only local ones I listen to work for the NWS.  Here's excerpts from the short and long range forecast discussions starting here in Charleston and working our way up the East coast.  Why is this important?  Because just as we should watch 'trends" in models we should watch "trends" in individual forecasts.  These forecasts are the human version of any Ensemble model forecast.  Each has an opinion.  I've been watching these discussions to try and figure out the players for Danielle.  What do you think?

KCHS Charleston

"THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS WILL REMAIN FAIRLY STATIONARY FROM NEW ENGLAND
INTO CENTRAL NC WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. A SURFACE FRONT WILL
REMAIN DRAPED NEAR THE GA/SC BORDER BUT SLOWLY SINK SOUTH THROUGH
THURSDAY. A SECONDARY COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE THROUGH FROM
THE NW LATE THU NIGHT AND FRI. A FAIRLY MOIST AIRMASS WILL SUPPORT
ISOLATED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS EACH AFTERNOON...MAINLY
ASSOCIATED WITH THE SEABREEZE. TEMPS ON WEDNESDAY WILL PROBABLY BE
SOMEWHAT LIMITED AGAIN BY CLOUD COVER. AS THE FRONT SHIFTS SOUTH ON
THURSDAY AND THE UPPER TROUGH RETREATS TO THE NORTHEAST...MORE
INSOLATION SHOULD SUPPORT HIGHS IN THE 92-94 DEGREE RANGE. TEMPS
WILL BE A BIT COOLER BY FRIDAY DUE TO FRONTAL CLOUDINESS AND LATE
DAY COLD ADVECTION.

&&

.LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/...
THE UPPER TROUGH WILL PUSH THROUGH THE REGION FRI NIGHT...MOVING
OFFSHORE BY SAT MORNING. THIS WILL THEN BE REPLACED BY A SPRAWLING
UPPER LEVEL DOME OF HIGH PRESSURE FORMING E OF THE MISSISSIPPI
RIVER OVER THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK ATOP SFC HIGH PRESSURE
BUILDING IN FROM THE NE."

From KILM, Wilmington NC

"HEIGHTS WILL LOWER ON WED WITH WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW IN WAKE OF
MID TO UPPER TROUGH BUT WILL INCREASE THROUGH THURS AS TROUGH
MOVES OUT OF THE AREA. SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL DEVELOP WED NIGHT INTO
THURS AHEAD OF NEXT FRONT WITH INCREASING DEWPOINTS. OVERALL
EXPECT TEMPS SLIGHTLY BELOW CLIMO WED AND ABOVE ON THU IN WARMER
SW FLOW. DRIER AND COOLER AIR MASS WILL BUILD IN BEHIND FRONT ON
THURS NIGHT.

&&

.LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/...
AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...FINAL TRAILING VORT SWINGS THROUGH EASTERN
TROUGH AND CROSSES THE REGION FRIDAY NIGHT. WHILE THIS WILL SERVE
AS A MECHANISM OF LIFT, FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW FAIRLY DRY MID
LEVEL AND SUB-CLOUD AIR. NON-MEASURABLE SPRINKLES SEEM MORE LIKELY
THAN MEASURABLE RAINFALL, IF ANY. LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE BOTH
SURFACE AND ALOFT THEN BUILDS IN FROM THE NORTH. COOL AND DRY
ADVECTION THE THEME FOR SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY. MINIMAL CLOUD
COVER AND BELOW CLIMO TEMPS EXPECTED, MAINLY AT NIGHT. GUIDANCE
SHOWING NEAR CLIMO BY DAY DUE TO STRONG INSOLATION AND DEEP
MIXING."

From KMHX Moorehead City NC

AS UPPER LEVEL IMPULSES ROUND THE BASE OF THE
TROUGH...WHICH IS CURRENTLY DRAPED ACROSS THE CAROLINAS...DO
ANTICIPATE SHOWER ACTIVITY TO CONTINUE THROUGH TONIGHT...WITH
ACTIVITY SUBSIDING AS THE SRF LOW PUSHES OFFSHORE.
THEREFORE...HAVE INCREASED POPS TO REFLECT THIS TREND.

WITH SUFFICIENT CLOUD COVER AND DEW POINTS IN THE MID TO UPPER 60S
ACROSS THE AREA OVERNIGHT...HAVE TEMPERATURES IN THE MID/UPPER 60S INLAND
AND LOW 70S ALONG THE COAST.  WINDS WILL BACK FROM NE TO NW TONIGHT
AS THE SFC LOW MIGRATES TO THE NE.

&&

.SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/...
AS OF 320 PM TUE...VERY LOOSE PRESSURE GRADIENT ACROSS THE
FORECAST AREA ON WEDNESDAY WITH LEESIDE TROF SETTING UP JUST WEST
OF THE AREA. EXPECT WIDELY SCATTERED ACTIVITY IN THE AFTERNOON.
ANOTHER WEAK COLD FRONT WILL CROSS THE AREA THURSDAY AND THURSDAY
NIGHT BUT MOISTURE AND LIFT NOT TOO IMPRESSIVE SO WENT WITH ONLY
20-30 PERCENT POPS. HIGH PRESSURE BEHIND THE FRONT OVER THE OHIO
VALLEY THURSDAY WILL BUILD EAST INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES BY
FRIDAY NIGHT.

&&

.LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/...
AS OF 320 PM TUE...A PERIOD OF DRY AND WARM WEATHER IN STORE.
RIDGING SURFACE AND ALOFT WILL REMAIN OVER THE SOUTHEAST THROUGH
EARLY NEXT WEEK."

KAKQ Wakefield Virginia

"LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE
MOVES INTO THE REGION THU NIGHT INTO FRI AND WILL DOMINATE THE WX
PATTERN INTO THE EXTENDED PERIOD.

&&

.LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/...
THE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT FROM SUNDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY
SHOWING A WEAK UPPER TROUGH EXITING WHILE ANOTHER TROUGH SWINGS SE
THROUGH THE PLAINS STATES INTO THE NERN US WHILE THE UPPER RIDGE
THAT HAS BEEN PREVALENT OFF THE SE COAST REMAINS ANCHORED IN PLACE.
THE 00Z MODELS SHOWED SOME DIFFERENCES BEYOND THAT TIME PERIOD AS
THE 00Z GFS TRIED TO KNOCK THE SERN US RIDGE DOWN AND PUSH A FRONT
THROUGH THE CAROLINAS WHILE THE ECMWF LEFT THE RIDGE IN PLACE AND
STALLED THE SFC FRONT ACROSS VA.  AT THIS POINT...DID NOT SEE ENOUGH
PUSH TO DRIVE THE FRONT SOUTH SO HAVE LEANED MORE WITH THE ECMWF
SOLUTION WHICH IS CLIMATOLOGICALLY FAVORED.  THE 12Z OPERATIONAL GFS
HAS NOW TRENDED TOWARD THE 00Z ECMWF.

OVERALL...HAVE LEFT THE DRY WEATHER FCST THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT AS
EFFECTS OF HIGH PRESSURE NORTH OF THE AREA REMAIN IN PLACE.  THIS
WILL ALSO LEAD TO THE CONTINUED SUMMER TIME HEAT WITH HIGHS AGAIN ON
MONDAY PUSHING INTO THE 90S.  BY TUESDAY...THE FRONT TO THE WEST
TRIES TO MOVE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY AND WITH THE INCREASING
MOISTURE AND DYNAMICS SWINGING THROUGH THE BASE OF THE TROUGH SHOULD
SEE SOME CONVECTION FIRE SO BEGIN TO INCREASE POPS TUESDAY AFTERNOON
THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT.  TEMPERATURES REMAIN ABOVE NORMAL TUESDAY
WITH READINGS STILL IN THE LOW TO MID 90S.

FOR WED INTO THURSDAY...THINGS GET A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING AS
LOCATION OF THE FRONT WILL BE KEY AS IT SHOULD BE A FOCUS FOR
CONVECTION EACH DAY.  THE FRONT SHOULD ALSO PROVIDE MORE
CLOUDS...WHICH SHOULD ALLOW FOR SLIGHTLY LOWER TEMPS...BUT THE
INCREASE IN HUMIDITY WILL NOT MAKE IT FEEL ANY COOLER."

KPHI Mount Holly NJ

"WEDNESDAY...CONFIDENCE BELOW AVERAGE ON EXTENT OF SHOWERS. SHOWERS
MAY BE MORE WIDESPREAD THAN FORECAST...ESPECIALLY OVER NJ.
SEA BREEZE POSSIBLE VERY LATE IN THE DAY.

WEDNESDAY NIGHT...CLEARING.

THURSDAY...THE CFP LOOKS TO BE DRY AND OVERALL A VERY NICE DAY
ANTICIPATED.

FRIDAY...DRY AND BEAUTIFUL.

THE SYNOPSIS HAS THE GENERAL SURFACE FEATURES.

THE MAIN UNCERTAINTY IN THE FORECAST THROUGH WEDNESDAY IS THE
DURATION AND AMOUNT OF SHOWERY DRIZZLY RAINS. MY IMMEDIATE CONCERN
FROM LOOKING AT THE RADAR AT 355PM IS THAT SHOWERY DRIZZLY RAINS
MAY LAST LONGER INTO THE EVENING THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST OVER NEW
JERSEY.

&&

.LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/...
THERE REMAINS GOOD CONTINUITY AND INTER-MODEL AGREEMENT IN THE LONG
TERM /AS OFTEN IS THE CASE IN A DRY PATTERN/, SO THERE ARE NO
SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE FORECAST. A LARGE HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM
WILL BUILD IN FROM THE WEST AND DOMINATE OUR WEATHER THROUGH THE
BEGINNING OF THE NEW WEEK. DRY WEATHER WILL BE THE RULE, AND
TEMPERATURES WILL START OUT A BIT BELOW NORMAL AND THEN REBOUND TO
ABOVE NORMAL THROUGH THE REST OF THE PERIOD."

KOKX NY. NY.

"SHORT TERM /6 AM THIS MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY/...
SEVERAL TIMING AND PLACEMENT ISSUES EXIST BETWEEN THE NAM AND THE
GFS WITH REGARDS TO THE LOW. EITHER WAY...SHOWERS WILL WRAP AROUND
THE LOW AND SPREAD THROUGH THE REGION FROM EAST TO WEST. NAM IS A
BIT FASTER AND STRONGER AS COMPARED WITH THE GFS. SREF SEEMS TO
SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE...BUT TRENDS A BIT TOWARDS THE GFS. THIS IS A
GOOD COMPROMISE.

CLOSED H5 LOW ALONG THE EAST COAST WILL OPEN UP WED MORNING AS
THE LOW TRACKS NORTH TOWARDS CAPE COD AND THE GULF OF MAINE. THIS
OPEN TROUGH WILL HELP PUSH THE LOW FARTHER OUT TO SEA...AND MOST
OF THE IMPACTS FROM THIS WILL WILL OCCUR OVER NORTHERN AND EASTERN
NEW ENGLAND.

WILL KEEP CHANCE POPS IN THE FCST THROUGH WED AS THE TROUGH
SLIDERS THROUGH THE REGION. PRECIP GRADUALLY ENDS WED NIGHT.

DECAYING COLD FRONT THEN MOVES THROUGH THE REGION ON THU. SINCE
THE STRONGEST DYNAMICS WILL BE NORTH OF THE AREA...DO NOT THINK
THERE IS THE NEED FOR MUCH MORE THAN SLIGHT CHANCE POPS...AND THAT
MIGHT BE ON THE HIGH SIDE.

HIGH PRES RETURNS FOR FRI WITH CLEARING SKIES.

HIGHS ON WED WILL TOP OFF IN THE LOW TO MID 70S. WITH PRECIP
ENDING AND CLOUDS SCATTERING OUT...HIGHS ON THU WILL CLIMB INTO
THE UPPER 70S TO LOWER 80S. BEHIND THE COLD FRONT ON FRI...HIGHS
WILL TOP OFF IN THE UPPER 70S TO AROUND 80."

KBOX Boston

".SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT/...
WED...
OFFSHORE SURFACE LOW BEGINS TO INTENSIFY AS MID LEVEL LOW ADVANCES
NORTHEAST TOWARD NEW ENGLAND. TROPICAL/WARM CONVEYOR BELT JUST
OFFSHORE WITH PWATS AOA 2 INCHES SHOWING SIGNS OF CURLING BACK
INTO EASTERN NEW ENGLAND AS MID LEVEL LOW TRIES TO WRAP WARM
CONVEYOR BELT CYCLONICALLY BACK INTO EASTERN MA. MODELS AGREE ON
THE BULK OF THE DEEP LAYER MOISTURE/LIFT AND INSTABILITY REMAINING
JUST OFFSHORE...BUT IT WILL BE A CLOSE CALL.

12Z NAM AND ECMWF OFFER THE MOST QPF BACKING INTO EASTERN MA WITH
AN ADDITIONAL 1 TO 1.5 INCHES OF RAINFALL THROUGH LATE WED/WED
EVENING. THINK THIS HEAVIER QPF SOLUTIONS ARE THE WAY TO GO GIVEN
THE STRONG UPPER LEVEL JET WITH RRQ OVER EASTERN MA COMBINED WITH
WESTERN EDGE OF DEEP LAYER MOISTURE PLUME TRAVERSING THIS REGION.
IN ADDITION SOME WEAK INSTABILITY BRUSHING THE EASTERN MA MAY
YIELD PRECIP TO BECOME MORE SHOWERY WITH SQUALLS POSSIBLE.
FURTHERMORE AS MID LEVEL OPENS UP LATER WED MID LEVEL TROF TAKES
ON A NEGATIVE TILT...ENHANCING FORCING FOR ASCENT. HEAVIER RAIN
SHIELD MAY PIVOT AS FAR WEST AS RI AND THE WORCESTER HILLS.
LIGHTER RAINS EXPECTED ACROSS THE CT RVR VLY.

SURF ZONE FORECAST...HIGH SURF ADVISORY CONTINUES INTO WED AS
DANGEROUS SURF AND RIP CURRENTS WILL PERSIST ACROSS EASTERN MA
OCEAN BEACHES.

WED NIGHT...
TROF BEGINS TO EXIT THE REGION...SO ANY EVENING SHOWERS WILL TAPER
OFF AROUND 06Z WITH CLEARING THEREAFTER.

&&

.LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/...
A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE REGION DURING THE DAY ON
THURSDAY. AT THIS POINT IT DOESN/T LOOK LIKE ENOUGH SFC
CONVERGENCE AND MOISTURE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE GENERATION OF
SHOWERS AND STORMS. WILL GO WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE POP...BUT MOST
AREAS SHOULD REMAIN DRY. VARYING AMOUNTS OF CLOUDS ARE
EXPECTED...BUT IT SHOULD BE SUNNIER THAN THE LAST FEW DAYS.

THE COLD FRONT PASSES OFFSHORE THURSDAY EVENING AND USHERS IN A
DRY AIRMASS FOR THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. CLEAR/SUNNY SKIES ARE
EXPECTED.

MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO BE IN STRONG AGREEMENT WITH BUILDING
STRONG MID-TROPOSPHERIC RIDGING ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY SATURDAY
AND WILL SHIFT ACROSS THE NORTHEAST SUNDAY THROUGH EARLY NEXT
WEEK. THIS WILL MEAN WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES TO RETURN TO
SNE...WITH AN OUTSIDE CHANCE OF A HEAT WAVE SUNDAY THROUGH
TUESDAY. WE BUMPED UP MOS MAXES DURING THIS PERIOD...AND GENERALLY
WENT WITH LOWER 90S AT LOWER ELEVATIONS. FLY IN THE OINTMENT WITH
THE TEMPERATURE FORECAST MAY BE A POTENTIAL BACKDOOR COLD FRONT
THAT COULD KEEP TUESDAY COOLER THAN FORECAST.

AT THIS TIME...THE LOW LEVEL AIRMASS APPEARS TO BE A DRY ONE WITH
GENERAL NWLY/NLY FLOW AND GOOD MIXING SO EVEN IF IT GETS AS HOT AS
FORECAST...HEAT INDICES MAY ACTUALLY BE LOWER THAN THE ACTUAL AIR
TEMPS.

AS FAR AS WX GOES...RIDGING WILL KEEP SKIES SUNNY...WITH NEARLY NO
CHANCE OF MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION."

KGYX Portland Maine

".SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM WEDNESDAY/...
THE DYNAMICS OF THE SURFACE LOW WILL INCREASE AS THE UPPER-LEVEL CUTOFF
CYCLONE OVER THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES OPENS UP AND BEGINS TO ROTATE
NORTHEASTWARD. THIS ENERGY WILL DEEPEN THE SURFACE LOW SITTING
OFFSHORE AND KICK IT NORTHEASTWARD INTO THE GULF OF MAINE DURING
THE DAY ON WEDNESDAY. WITH AN AMPLE MOISTURE STREAM TO THE EAST OF
THIS LOW (EVIDENT ON GOES WATER VAPOR IMAGERY)...LOCALLY HEAVY
RAINFALL MAY BE ABLE TO WRAP AROUND TO THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THIS
LOW AS IT APPROACHES THE BAY OF FUNDY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO BE IN EASTERN MAINE ON
WEDNESDAY...BUT SOME ONE TO ONE AND A HALF INCH RAINFALL AMOUNTS
ARE POSSIBLE EAST AND NORTHEAST OF PORTLAND. IN NEW HAMPSHIRE THE
RAINFALL WILL BE LIGHTER BUT MAY YET LINGER INTO MID
AFTERNOON...EVEN IN THE CONNECTICUT VALLEY BEFORE TAPERING OFF
LATE IN THE DAY.

&&

.LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/...
H5 SHORT WAVE LIFTS NE BRINGING SFC LOW NE THRU THE GULF OF MAINE
WEDNESDAY NGT AS PRCP COMES TO AN END. A CD FNT MOVES THRU LATE
THURSDAY WITH A CHC OF SHRA. HIGH PRES BUILDS IN FRIDAY BUT WITH CD
POOL ALOFT COULD SEE SOME CLOUDINESS AND PERHAPS ISOLD -SHRA WHICH
WOULD BE MAINLY CONFINED TO THE N AND MT ZONES. H5 HEIGHTS
RISE...WITH 590M HEIGHTS BUILDING INTO THE REGION WITH THE UPR LVL
RIDGE. THIS BRINGS A SFC HIGH E INTO THE REGION ALONG WITH MUCH
WARMER WX. H8 TEMPS RISE TO NEAR PLUS 15 C BY LATE SATURDAY THEN
ABOVE PLUS 15 C TO NEAR PLUS 20 FOR SUNDAY INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT
WEEK FOR SOME VERY WARM AND DRY LATE SUMMER WX.

GENERALLY USED GFS40/NAM/PREVIOUS FCST...HPC QPF AND MAV/MET MOS
BLEND FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT THRU THURSDAY NIGHT...THEN USED GMOS FOR
REST OF THE FCST."



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