4pm EST Sunday on Potential Tropical Cyclone Eighteen: 35mph; Hurricane watches issued for Cayman Islands
Posted by Chris in Tampa on 11/3/2024, 4:28 pm
NHC track:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/?cone#contents



Tropical storm warning issued for Jamaica.

The NHC says it has a closed center, but not quite enough organized deep convection yet to be called a depression.

Later in the forecast period when the system reaches the Gulf, the NHC says "the NHC track forecast during that time period is of notably lower confidence".

The NHC is talking about shear and dry air in the Gulf which would keep it weaker. For now they think some of the hurricane models are too aggressive in their intensity forecasts in the shorter term. (HFSA and HFSB) That makes sense. I don't think those models should be given much weight until something is more developed. They often forecast a significant intensity increase that usually is too overblown. As usual, we'll have to wait and see how shear and dry air impact it when it gets to the Gulf. When we get these potential tropical cyclones we're getting them because they need to write advisories because they are close enough to landfall where they need to issue watches and warnings. It's still not fully organized yet so I consider the first forecasts to often still be more uncertain than usual.





Satellite floaters:
Not here yet as of posting: https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/floater_index.php
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/products/ocean/tropical/floaters/floaters.html
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/storm.asp?storm_identifier=al182024

Recon:
https://hurricanecity.com/recon/





Potential Tropical Cyclone Eighteen Discussion Number 1
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL182024
400 PM EST Sun Nov 03 2024

The Air Force Hurricane Hunters have been investigating the
disturbance over the south-central Caribbean Sea and their data
indicates that the system has developed a closed center. However,
deep convection is not quite organized enough to designate the
system a tropical depression at this time. Given the potential for
development and impacts to Jamaica and the Cayman Islands during the
next day or two, advisories are being issued on Potential Tropical
Cyclone Eighteen.

The initial motion is northeastward at 6 kt, but this is uncertain
given that the system has only recently closed off. A turn to the
north and then northwest is expected over the next couple of days as
a mid-level ridge builds across the southwestern Atlantic and the
eastern Caribbean. This motion should take the disturbance near
Jamaica by late Monday and near or over the Cayman Islands and Cuba
on Tuesday and Wednesday. The models are in relatively good
agreement during that time period, and the official track forecast
lies near the various consensus models. Once the system reaches the
Gulf of Mexico by the middle of the week, the model solutions
diverge due to differences in the predicted steering patterns and
vertical depth of the system by that time. Therefore, the NHC track
forecast during that time period is of notably lower confidence.

The environmental conditions appear conducive for strengthening
during the next few days, and it seems likely that the system will
become a tropical storm before it reaches Jamaica and a hurricane
before it reaches Cuba. However, later in the week, southwesterly
vertical wind shear and intrusions of dry air should end the
strengthening process and likely induce some weakening once the
system reaches the Gulf of Mexico. The hurricane regional models are
very aggressive, however, their intensity predictions appear
overdone, at least in the short term. The NHC intensity forecast is
closer to the statistical-dynamical models DSHP and LGEM and near
the IVCN consensus aid.


Key Messages:

1. The disturbance is expected to become a tropical storm Monday and
pass near Jamaica on Monday night and Tuesday where a Tropical Storm
Warning is now in effect. The system is forecast to become a
hurricane by Tuesday night and there is a risk of dangerous impacts
from hurricane-force winds and storm surge in the Cayman Islands and
portions of Cuba.

2. Interests in the Florida Keys should closely monitor this system
as tropical storm watches could be required for portions of the
Florida Keys tonight or early Monday.

3. The system is forecast to approach the northern Gulf Coast as a
tropical storm later this week, but given uncertainties in the
long-range forecast, it is too soon to determine what, if any,
impacts could occur. Residents in this area should regularly
monitor updates to the forecast.

4. The system will bring areas of heavy rain across portions of the
western Caribbean, including Jamaica and the southern and western
portions of Cuba through mid-week. Flooding could occur over
portions of Jamaica and Cuba, with mudslides possible. Heavy
rainfall could then spread northward into Florida and adjacent
areas of the Southeast United States during the middle to late
portions of the week.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 03/2100Z 13.0N 77.1W 30 KT 35 MPH...POTENTIAL TROP CYCLONE
12H 04/0600Z 14.3N 77.1W 35 KT 40 MPH...TROPICAL CYCLONE
24H 04/1800Z 16.0N 77.7W 40 KT 45 MPH
36H 05/0600Z 17.7N 78.6W 50 KT 60 MPH
48H 05/1800Z 19.6N 80.4W 60 KT 70 MPH
60H 06/0600Z 21.5N 82.6W 70 KT 80 MPH
72H 06/1800Z 23.3N 84.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
96H 07/1800Z 25.4N 86.6W 60 KT 70 MPH
120H 08/1800Z 26.9N 88.6W 50 KT 60 MPH

$$
Forecaster Cangialosi






Potential Tropical Cyclone Eighteen Advisory Number 1
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL182024
400 PM EST Sun Nov 03 2024

...DISTURBANCE FORECAST TO STRENGTHEN AS IT MOVES ACROSS THE
WESTERN CARIBBEAN...
...HURRICANE WATCH ISSUED FOR THE CAYMAN ISLANDS AND TROPICAL
STORM WARNING ISSUED FOR JAMAICA...


SUMMARY OF 400 PM EST...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...13.0N 77.1W
ABOUT 345 MI...555 KM S OF KINGSTON JAMAICA
ABOUT 515 MI...825 KM SSE OF GRAND CAYMAN
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NE OR 45 DEGREES AT 7 MPH...11 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB...29.65 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

The government of the Cayman Islands has issued a Hurricane Watch
for Grand Cayman, Little Cayman and Cayman Brac.

The government of Jamaica has issued a Tropical Storm Warning for
the island of Jamaica.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* Cayman Islands

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Jamaica

A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area. A watch is typically issued 48 hours
before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical-storm-force
winds, conditions that make outside preparations difficult or
dangerous.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area, in this case within
24-36 hours.

Interests in Cuba and the Florida Keys should closely monitor this
system. For storm information specific to your area, please monitor
products issued by your national meteorological
service.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 400 PM EST (2100 UTC), the disturbance was centered near latitude
13.0 North, longitude 77.1 West. The system is moving toward the
northeast near 7 mph (11 km/h). A turn to the north and then
northwest is expected over the next few days. On the forecast
track, the system is expected to move near Jamaica by late Monday
and near or over the Cayman Islands Tuesday and Wednesday.

Maximum sustained winds are near 35 mph (55 km/h) with higher gusts.
This system is expected to become a tropical depression tonight and
steady strengthening is forecast.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...near 100 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...near 100 percent.

The estimated minimum central pressure based on data from the Air
Force Hurricane Hurricane is 1004 mb (29.65 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND: Hurricane conditions are possible in the Cayman Islands on
Tuesday. Tropical storm conditions are expected in Jamaica by late
Monday.

RAINFALL: Heavy rainfall will impact areas of the western Caribbean
with the heaviest rainfall occurring over Jamaica and southern Cuba
through mid-week. Rainfall totals between 3 to 6 inches with locally
up to 9 inches are expected. Flooding could occur over portions of
Jamaica and Cuba, with mudslides possible.

Heavy rainfall will spread north into Florida and adjacent areas of
the Southeast United States mid to late week.

STORM SURGE: Minor coastal flooding is possible in Jamaica on
Monday and the Cayman Islands on Tuesday.

SURF: Swells generated by the system are expected to affect much
of the western Caribbean during the next few days. Please consult
products from your local weather office.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next intermediate advisory at 700 PM EST.
Next complete advisory at 1000 PM EST.

$$
Forecaster Cangialosi








GFS:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=watl&pkg=mslp_pcpn

Euro:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=watl&pkg=mslp_pcpn

Ensemble members are more tightly clustered to western Cuba and then spread out. GFS and Euro aren't as far apart as they were, but still a considerable difference later on in the forecast.

GFS Ensemble Members:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs-ens&region=watl&pkg=lowlocs

Euro Ensemble Members:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=eps&region=watl&pkg=lowlocs

Even though the water is cooler than it was, it can still certainly support a hurricane. It'll be up to that shear and dry air to determine how much. Often more time over water is worse, but maybe if it heads to the northern Gulf coast it could potentially have more of a chance to weaken if shear is forecast to possibly be high. I wish the SHIPS intensity text output had coordinates all the way out. (https://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/stext/?C=M;O=D) After 120 hours it has shear 30 knots or more, but I don't know the path from that. I can't assume that the path in the ATCF system matches that. But with that kind of shear, it weakens it from a hurricane to a tropical storm. We'll just have to see. At least the waters are not record temperatures any longer, so that's a nice positive.
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