4am EST Thursday on T.D. Nineteen: 35mph; 1004mb; W at 16mph; Now a depression
Posted by Chris in Tampa on 11/14/2024, 5:03 am
Track:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/?cone#contents

Satellite floaters:
https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/floater.php?stormid=AL192024
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/products/ocean/tropical/floaters/19L/19L_floater.html
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/storm.asp?storm_identifier=al192024

There's still a lot of uncertainty short term, such as whether it stays more offshore or not.

But rainfall is forecast to be a lot either way sadly.

Total rain forecast from:

GFS:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=watl&pkg=apcpn

Euro:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=watl&pkg=apcpn

But as for the wind, there would be a significant difference if it were a little further north of the track where it is over more water. It could make a lot of difference to areas of Honduras along the coast, but also to Belize (or Mexico if it were further north) which could get a much stronger storm making landfall. They'll have to be prepared for stronger winds too in case it is. The models are pretty tightly clustered along the coast.

GFS Ensemble:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs-ens&region=watl&pkg=lowlocs

Euro Ensemble:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=eps&region=watl&pkg=lowlocs

Could go either way. GFS ensemble is a bit more varied. You can see pressures of ensemble members further north over water more have a lower number. One has a 65 for example that is north of Belize and that would be a 965mb pressure. I'm not saying it will go that north, just pointing out how to read those. (hard to read those as it's pretty zoomed out and things are clustered close)

As for long term, with it interacting with land, it might not have an opportunity to take advantage of the very warm waters to intensify in terms of wind. (rain is going to be bad down there of course) But if it then moves into the Yucatan, the Gulf isn't as warm. For it to be powerful later it would need to hold whatever intensity it built up in the Carib and carry it over more. If that doesn't happen, which along the current NHC forecast it would not, it would be a weaker storm than had it stayed much more over that warmest water. It could possibly be a hurricane in the Gulf, but hopefully it would be a tropical storm or category one at most. That's still too long term though to know. But for now the models that go out that far are generally a tropical storm at most.

https://hurricanecity.com/models/models.cgi?basin=al&year=2024&storm=19&display=wind_diagram&latestrun=1

SHIP model pretends there is no land. DSHP is for taking land into account. (helpful I guess in cases if an island might be missed and you want to see how it would maintain itself perhaps) Interpolated models are a little stronger for NAVGEM, but those are based on older runs, such as 12 hours ago, so generally things are just a tropical storm longer term. (assuming it hits the Yucatan and didn't do something like stay over water as it moves north) NHC shifted a bit west they said, but not as much as some of the models. (in case they were to change some back probably)









Tropical Depression Nineteen Discussion Number 3
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL192024
400 AM EST Thu Nov 14 2024

The satellite presentation of the system has gradually been
improving. The latest subjective intensity estimates from TAFB and
SAB are both T-2.0/30 kt. Based on the subjective Dvorak estimates
and the improvement in the convective structure noted on satellite
imagery, the system is upgraded to a tropical depression. This is
supported by data from the Indian Oceansat scatterometer, which
shows a well-defined circulation. The intensity is set to 30 kt
based on the Dvorak estimates.

Tropical Depression Nineteen has been moving faster, just south of
due west, or 265/14 kt, although it should begin slowing down later
today. A mid-level ridge centered to the north of the depression
over the Straits of Florida should keep it on a westward track until
Friday, taking the system near the north coast of eastern Honduras,
and possibly inland. After that, the ridge is expected to break
down, and the models agree that the cyclone will meander in weak
steering currents late Friday through the weekend. This expected
slow motion will cause the system to produce heavy rains over the
same region, likely causing life-threatening flooding over portions
of Central America. By early next week, ridging should become
re-established over Florida and the eastern Gulf of Mexico, which
should cause the system to move northwestward across Belize and the
Yucatan Peninsula. Very little change was made to the first 3 days
of the track forecast. Beyond day 3, there has been a notable
westward shift in the track guidance. The NHC forecast is a bit
west of the previous forecast beyond day 3, but not as far west as
the bulk of the latest model guidance.

Environmental conditions are conducive for intensification during
the next day or two while the system remains over water, with low
vertical wind shear and relatively high mid-level humidities.
However, there is a significant amount of uncertainty in how much
land interaction with Honduras occurs. The majority of the models
are showing the center move just barely inland over Honduras, or
parking it right on the coastline, between hour 48 and 72. However,
if the system stays offshore, as shown by the latest HWRF model
solution, it could take advantage of the conducive atmospheric and
oceanic conditions and continue to strengthen. The latest NHC
intensity forecast is similar to the previous one through 36 h, but
then is about 5 kt lower than the previous forecast since this
forecast shows a bit more land interaction beyond 36 h. The latest
NHC intensity forecast is above the high end of the guidance
envelope beyond 36 h.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. Through early next week, heavy rainfall will cause significant,
life-threatening flash flooding and mudslides across portions of
Central America, particularly Honduras, Belize, El Salvador, eastern
Guatemala, and western Nicaragua.

2. The disturbance is forecast to be near hurricane strength when
it moves near the eastern coast of Honduras on Friday and Saturday.
Hurricane watches and tropical storm warnings are in effect for
portions of that area.

3. The system is forecast to approach Belize and the Yucatan
Peninsula of Mexico at or near hurricane strength by early next week
where there is a risk of dangerous storm surge and damaging winds.
Residents in these areas should monitor the latest forecast updates
and ensure that they have their hurricane plan in place.

4. It is too soon to determine what impacts the system could bring
to portions of the eastern Gulf of Mexico, including Florida, the
Florida Keys, and Cuba during the middle portion of next week.
Residents in these areas should regularly monitor updates to the
forecast.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 14/0900Z 15.9N 81.7W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 14/1800Z 15.9N 83.1W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 15/0600Z 16.0N 84.4W 40 KT 45 MPH
36H 15/1800Z 16.1N 85.1W 50 KT 60 MPH
48H 16/0600Z 15.9N 85.3W 55 KT 65 MPH...NEAR THE COAST
60H 16/1800Z 15.9N 85.3W 55 KT 65 MPH...NEAR THE COAST
72H 17/0600Z 15.9N 85.8W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND
96H 18/0600Z 17.1N 87.8W 55 KT 65 MPH...OVER WATER
120H 19/0600Z 20.4N 89.7W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND

$$
Forecaster Hagen





Tropical Depression Nineteen Advisory Number 3
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL192024
400 AM EST Thu Nov 14 2024

...POTENTIAL TROPICAL CYCLONE BECOMES TROPICAL DEPRESSION...
...LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODING EXPECTED IN HONDURAS LATER THIS
WEEK AND OVER THE WEEKEND...


SUMMARY OF 400 AM EST...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...15.9N 81.7W
ABOUT 280 MI...455 KM E OF ISLA GUANAJA HONDURAS
ABOUT 120 MI...190 KM ENE OF CABO GRACIAS A DIOS ON NIC/HON BORDER
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 265 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB...29.65 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* Punta Castilla to the Honduras/Nicaragua Border
* The Bay Islands of Honduras

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Punta Sal to the Honduras/Nicaragua Border
* The Bay Islands of Honduras

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* Honduras/Nicaragua Border to Puerto Cabezas

A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area. A watch is typically issued 48 hours
before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical-storm-force
winds, conditions that make outside preparations difficult or
dangerous.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area within 36 hours.

A Tropical Storm Watch means that tropical storm conditions are
possible within the watch area, generally within 48 hours.

Interests elsewhere in Honduras, and in Belize and the Yucatan
Peninsula should monitor the progress of this system. For storm
information specific to your area, please monitor products issued by
your national meteorological service.

For storm information specific to your area, please monitor
products issued by your national meteorological service.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 400 AM EST (0900 UTC), the center of Tropical Depression Nineteen
was located near latitude 15.9 North, longitude 81.7 West. The
depression is moving toward the west near 16 mph (26 km/h). This
motion should continue through today, taking the system across the
western Caribbean Sea. The depression is expected to stall and
meander near the north coast of Honduras late Friday and through the
weekend.

Maximum sustained winds are near 35 mph (55 km/h) with higher gusts.
Some strengthening is forecast during the next 48 hours. The
depression is forecast to become a tropical storm later today and
continue strengthening, if it remains over water.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 1004 mb (29.65 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
Key Messages for Tropical Depression Nineteen can be found in the
Tropical Cyclone Discussion under AWIPS header MIATCDAT4 and WMO
header WTNT44 KNHC and on the web at
hurricanes.gov/text/MIATCDAT4.shtml

RAINFALL: Through early next week, rainfall amounts of 10 to 20
inches with isolated storm totals around 30 inches area expected
over northern Honduras. This rainfall will lead to widespread areas
of life-threatening and potentially catastrophic flash flooding and
mudslides, especially along and near the Sierra La Esperanza.

Elsewhere across the rest of Honduras, Belize, El Salvador, eastern
Guatemala, and western Nicaragua, Tropical Depression Nineteen is
expected to produce 5 to 10 inches of rain with localized totals
around 15 inches through early next week. This will result in areas
of flash flooding, perhaps significant, along with the potential of
mudslides.

For a complete depiction of forecast rainfall associated with
Tropical Depression Nineteen, please see the National Weather
Service Storm Total Rainfall Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/205755.shtml?
rainqpf#contents

WIND: Hurricane conditions are possible within the watch area by
Friday. Tropical storm conditions are expected in the warning area
and possible in the watch area beginning late today.

STORM SURGE: Storm surge could raise water levels by as much as 1
to 3 feet above normal tide levels along the immediate coast in
areas of onshore winds along the northern coast of Honduras. Near
the coast, the surge will be accompanied by large and destructive
waves.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next intermediate advisory at 700 AM EST.
Next complete advisory at 1000 AM EST.

$$
Forecaster Hagen
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4am EST Thursday on T.D. Nineteen: 35mph; 1004mb; W at 16mph; Now a depression - Chris in Tampa, 11/14/2024, 5:03 am
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