morning Discussion NWS Tallahassee, Fla.
Posted by
chucky7777 on 9/23/2010, 2:56 pm
.......NWS Forecast discussion......LONG TERM (SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY) ALL THE 00 UTC GLOBAL GUIDANCE FORECAST A LARGE CUTOFF 500 MB LOW TO DEVELOP OVER MUCH OF THE EASTERN U.S. LATE THIS WEEKEND THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE DETAILS. THE GFS AND ITS ENSEMBLE MEAN FORECAST THIS LOW FARTHER SOUTH (OVER THE GULF COAST STATES) AND TAKE THIS LOW SLOWLY WESTWARD THROUGH THURSDAY. THE ECMWF AND GEM HAVE THE LOW CENTERED FARTHER NORTH...AND NOT QUITE AS CUT OFF FROM THE MAIN WESTERLIES (NO RETROGRADING). THUS THE GFS/ENSEMBLE MEAN KEEP OUR AREA IN THE WARM SECTOR LONGER...AHEAD OF A COMPLEX FRONTAL SYSTEM. THE ECMWF/GEM BRING A COLD FRONT THROUGH OUR REGION BY MID WEEK. THE GFS/ENSEMBLE MEAN ALSO FORECAST A LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE (YET TO DEVELOP) TO MOVE INTO NORTH FL BY MID TO LATE NEXT WEEK...WHICH WOULD RESULT IN A WET AND WINDY WEATHER EVENT FOR US. WHILE THE ECMWF/GEM ALSO DEVELOP A LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN EARLY NEXT WEEK...THEIR SOLUTION (WITH THE 500 MB TROUGH AND SURFACE FRONTAL SYSTEM FARTHER EAST) SHEARS THE CYCLONE OUT SOUTH AND EAST OF OUR FORECAST AREA. WITH THIS MID LATITUDE WEATHER SO FAR SOUTH (INCLUDING A BAROCLINIC ZONE...VERTICAL WIND SHEAR...AND VERY DRY AIR ALOFT)...IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT THE GFS SOLUTION OF AN INCREASINGLY-TROPICAL CYCLONE WILL VERIFY (AS THE GFS FORECAST CYCLONE PHASE DIAGRAM FROM FSU INDICATES). WE WOULD EXPECT THE SYSTEM TO BECOME LESS WARM CORE AND SYMMETRICAL AS IT MOVES NORTHWARD. THE GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBER SPREAD IS ABOUT AS LARGE AS IT GETS...INDICATING A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY WITH THIS FORECAST. WE OPTED TO GO WITH THE 12 UTC WEDNESDAY ECMWF/GEM SOLUTION...BRINGING THE COLD FRONT SLOWLY THROUGH OUR REGION BY EARLY TO MID WEEK...BUT KEEPING A NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTED MOISTURE BAND OVER OUR EASTERNMOST ZONES (WHERE THERE WILL REMAIN A SLIGHT CHANCE OF RAIN). WE EXPECT MORE CHANGES WILL HAVE TO BE MADE TO THIS FORECAST WITH EACH MODEL CYCLE...AS SMALL CHANGES IN TIMING AND POSITIONING OF THIS FRONT WILL LIKELY HAVE LARGE IMPACTS ON OUR VARIOUS FORECAST PARAMETERS. IN FACT...EVEN THOUGH THE 00 UTC ECMWF WAS SIMILAR TO ITS PREVIOUS RUN (WHICH WE USED FOR THIS FORECAST PACKAGE)...THERE ARE ALREADY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN OUR WIND/DEWPOINT/POP FORECAST. THIS IS AN UNUSUALLY LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST.
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Looks good to go! -
canetrakker,
9/23/2010, 1:52 pm- Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 23kts ( 26.5mph) Recon - Doorman, 9/23/2010, 3:10 pm
- Re: Looks good to go! - JAC, 9/23/2010, 1:57 pm
- Re: Looks good to go! - Holly_Texas, 9/23/2010, 1:58 pm
- Official Cast - JAC, 9/23/2010, 2:00 pm
- The Cone - JAC, 9/23/2010, 2:05 pm
- Re: The Cone - ArgosyTn, 9/23/2010, 2:14 pm
- Re: The Cone - canetrakker, 9/23/2010, 2:08 pm
- Re: The Cone - JAC, 9/23/2010, 2:14 pm
- Re: The Cone - ArgosyTn, 9/23/2010, 2:19 pm
- morning Discussion NWS Tallahassee, Fla. - chucky7777, 9/23/2010, 2:56 pm
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