5pm AST Monday (Sep. 11th) on Lee: 115mph; 948mb; WNW at 7mph
Posted by Chris in Tampa on 9/11/2023, 5:36 pm


Track:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/?cone#contents

Satellite floaters:
https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/floater.php?stormid=AL132023
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/storm.asp?storm_identifier=al132023

Carib view:
https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G16&sector=car&band=13&length=24

By tomorrow it will be on the U.S. East Coast satellite view on their website:
https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G16&sector=eus&band=13&length=12

I like stable satellite views more than I do the floaters. Also, it's good to get some perspective at how large the storm is with a zoomed out view.

I think the important part of the 5pm AST Monday discussion is this:

"Although Lee is expected to weaken later in the week, it is expected
to significantly increase in size and hazards will extend well away
from the storm center by the end of the forecast period."





Hurricane Lee Discussion Number 26
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132023
500 PM AST Mon Sep 11 2023

Lee continues to exhibit a double eyewall structure as reported by
the Air Force Hurricane Hunters and seen in recent microwave images.
The inner eyewall is open on the south side, but the outer eyewall
is completely closed and has contracted slightly from the earlier
NOAA P-3 aircraft mission. The minimum pressure is the same as
before, 948 mb, but the initial wind speed is nudged downward to 100
kt based on the aircraft data.

The major hurricane has jogged a little to the left recently, and
the initial motion is estimated to be 290/7 kt. The models are
similar to the previous runs, and no big changes were made to the
NHC track forecast. A continued slow motion between west-northwest
and northwest is expected during the next couple of days as Lee
remains steered by a mid-level high to its north-northeast. Beyond a
couple of days, the ridge is expected to shift eastward as a mid- to
upper-level trough amplifies over the eastern U.S. This pattern
change should cause Lee to turn northward with an increase in
forward speed. Lee is likely to pass near, but to the west of
Bermuda, late Thursday and Friday and then be situated offshore of
the mid-Atlantic states and New England late Friday and Saturday.

Given the current concentric eyewall structure, it seems likely that
Lee will fluctuate in strength in the short term. However, since
the hurricane will remain in generally conducive conditions during
the next couple of days, it could restrengthen if the eyewall cycle
completes. Lee is likely to move over a cool SST wake left behind
by Hurricanes Idalia and Franklin later this week, and cross over
the north wall of the Gulf Stream by the end of the forecast period.
The combination of cooler SSTs, an increase in shear, and dry air
entrainment should cause a steady decay in strength late this week
and over the weekend. The NHC intensity forecast is an update of
the previous one and near the middle of the guidance envelope.

Although Lee is expected to weaken later in the week, it is expected
to significantly increase in size and hazards will extend well away
from the storm center by the end of the forecast period.


KEY MESSAGES:

1. Dangerous surf and life-threatening rip currents will affect
portions of the northern Leeward Islands, the Virgin Islands, Puerto
Rico, Hispaniola, the Turks and Caicos Islands, the Bahamas,
Bermuda, and most of the U.S East Coast through much of the week.

2. Lee could bring strong winds, rainfall, and high surf impacts to
Bermuda later this week. Interests there should continue to monitor
updates to the forecast of Lee during the next several days.

3. It remains too soon to know what level of additional impacts Lee
might have along the Northeast U.S. coast and Atlantic Canada late
this week and this weekend. However, wind and rainfall hazards will
likely extend well away from the center as Lee grows in size. Users
should continue to monitor updates to the forecast of Lee during the
next several days.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 11/2100Z 23.6N 64.2W 100 KT 115 MPH
12H 12/0600Z 24.0N 65.1W 105 KT 120 MPH
24H 12/1800Z 24.6N 66.1W 105 KT 120 MPH
36H 13/0600Z 25.3N 66.9W 100 KT 115 MPH
48H 13/1800Z 26.5N 67.5W 100 KT 115 MPH
60H 14/0600Z 28.3N 67.8W 95 KT 110 MPH
72H 14/1800Z 30.3N 67.9W 90 KT 105 MPH
96H 15/1800Z 35.4N 67.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
120H 16/1800Z 40.8N 67.0W 65 KT 75 MPH

$$
Forecaster Cangialosi




While the models could change, I think it's reasonable to say at this point that Lee is more likely than not going to make a landfall in either Atlantic Canada or the Northeast United States. As for Bermuda, it remains uncertain what impacts they will see.

GFS:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=eus&pkg=mslp_pcpn

Euro:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=eus&pkg=mslp_pcpn

At the moment, the GFS and Euro are around Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, also being close to Maine. (being not too far from Cape Cod on the way by) But with the storm so large later on, it would have some impacts in other areas of the Northeast U.S. with that track if that happened. (beyond dangerous rip currents) But, it's too soon to know what the track will be, whether closer or further than what the models currently forecast. It could be even closer, with a direct landfall still possible. But people should be prepared:

https://www.noaa.gov/hurricane-prep

I hope people don't see Lee as a hurricane that will be weakening, so it's something they shouldn't care about. Larger storms generate more surge. Sandy was an example of that. It made landfall with 80 mph winds, an hour after it technically became post-tropical.

It's wind field in the forecast advisories before landfall were:

15Z on Oct. 29, 2012:
34 KT.......420NE 330SE 400SW 270NW.

21Z on Oct. 29, 2012:
34 KT.......420NE 370SE 400SW 200NW.

34 knots is 39 mph, the tropical storm force wind field. The values in each quadrant are in nautical miles. Multiple by 1.15 to get statute miles.

Wind field forecasts from the NHC only go out 3 days. Through three day's, Lee's forecast size is:

FORECAST VALID 14/1800Z 30.3N 67.9W:
34 KT...230NE 210SE 180SW 190NW.

I assume it will get even larger and we'll see that reflected in future advisories. We'll have to see.



I think it's helpful to view the Simulated IR Satellite from the GFS model:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=neus&pkg=ir&fh=115

Don't focus on its exact track, take a look at the size of the storm. That doesn't go out as far as the GFS apparently. You can view through 115 hours which is enough. Look at the extent of the storm across the Northeast. (though onshore winds would be where the highest surge would be when it come to that threat)



I also think it's a good idea to look at the GFS and Euro Ensemble members.

GFS:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs-ens&region=eus&pkg=lowlocs

Euro:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=eps&region=eus&pkg=lowlocs

Where you can see there is a lot of difference among the individual members. One thing that's pretty consistent, it does make landfall. It's just a question of where. So landfall does seem likely. But a Canada landfall would not mean no impact to the U.S.





Recon continues:
https://hurricanecity.com/recon/
The NOAA G-IV is getting sonde data into some of the models, like the GFS. I didn't realize I guess, but HDOB data from flight level data also gets in.

I explain a little about how you can see when sonde data gets into the GFS here:
http://tropicalatlantic.com/reconnaissance/#ncep_monitoring_system
But since it includes all sonde data, from Air Force and NOAA P-3s, it's really hard to know how many from the G-IV has gotten into a run. But, the data is eventually and the plane will be out doing a lot of missions.

The "hdob" section tells you about HDOBs that have gotten in. I assume that each line must be treated as an ob, with 20 lines per actual message, because for the 18Z GFS there was a count of 1245. (each line has flight level data every 30 seconds)

But that sonde data, taking measurements on the way down after being dropped from the aircraft, is helpful to the models. Rather than guessing what the profile of the atmosphere is over the middle of nowhere in the Atlantic, you'll have actual data to put into the model. That helps for determining steering that will determine where the storm might go.
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