Re: Latest on the Arctic
Posted by B-Lowcountry on 8/24/2009, 9:50 am
Ummm, Mike.

That data only seems to tell me that the Ice in the Arctic is less in the Summer than it is in the Winter.

Assuming all things are equal, the "average" ice coverage uses the years 1979 to 2000.  

Now, this part is before my time, but weren't "they" crowing about an upcoming Ice-Age in the Seventies (Time Mag and all?) - so therefore, wouldn't those colder temps "skew" this "Average" by adding "extra" ice to the numbers for those years?

This is like saying that the "Average" number of TC in the Atlantic is 17, but only using the last 4 seasons (2008-2005).  Once I put 2005 in there (and stop), my numbers become suspect.

Maybe a better way of looking at this would be sorta like this:  
- Average # of Hurricanes at Solar Max.  Average at Min.  
- Average Ice Coverage at Solar Max, and again at Min.  
- Average rate of Permafrost Thawing (CH4 - much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2) at Max and Min.  

Basically, you would hope to (and want to) remove all of the Anomalous Years to get a True Average.  I think if you do that, electrics may play more as an outlyer or indicator as opposed to a major contributor to ... what is it that you were trying to say here?  Ice or Hurricanes?

Also on a side note, "pure water" is not conductive.  It is an insulator.  Therefore, dissolved CO2 making it more conductive is a foregone conclusion.  Dissolving O2 into it also increases it's conductivity. Dissolving ANYTHING into pure water does that.  
(My Chem teacher in high school demonstrated this, quite effectively, by electrocuting himself in front of the class.  What a big dummy.)

I am not trying to debunk you AT ALL.  This is an honest discussion on this theory.  

I am also trying to figure out your "big circuit" is in this global electrics theory.  What is the source?  
- Is it the sun?  
- or the Core?  
- or just the instantaneous difference of potential between the surface and the atmosphere?

Thanks Mike.
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