10pm CDT Wed on Helene: 85mph; 972mb; N at 9mph; Expected to bring catastrophic winds & surge to NE Gulf coast
Posted by Chris in Tampa on 9/25/2024, 11:23 pm
Track:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/?cone#contents

Experimental cone that shows the peninsula and most of the Panhandle covered in warnings:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/?expCone#contents
I do believe that the entire states of Georgia and South Carolina are covered in warnings, with parts of North Carolina and Alabama too.



Satellite Floaters:
https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/floater.php?stormid=AL092024
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/products/ocean/tropical/floaters/09L/09L_floater.html
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/storm.asp?storm_identifier=al092024

Gulf satellite:
https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G16&sector=gm&band=13&length=24

Tides:
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/







Hurricane Helene Discussion Number 11
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092024
1000 PM CDT Wed Sep 25 2024

Satellite images show that Helene has a well-organized appearance,
with numerous convective banding features. A ragged-looking eye
feature is also apparent. However, reports from both Air Force and
a NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft investigating the system suggest
that the it lacks a well-defined inner core with a somewhat broad
maximum wind field for now. The central pressure has dropped a
little to around 972 mb. Given the slowly falling central
pressure, the intensity is maintained at 75 kt for this advisory.
Helene's structure and intensity will continue to be closely
monitored by Hurricane Hunter aircraft tonight and Thursday.

The hurricane continues moving northward with an estimated initial
motion of 360/08 kt. For the next couple of days, the steering
scenario for this system remains basically unchanged from the
earlier advisory. The flow between a mid-tropospheric trough over
the east-central United States and a ridge over the western
Atlantic should result in Helene accelerating northward to
north-northeastward during the next 24 to 36 hours. This motion
will bring the center of Helene to the northeastern Gulf of Mexico
coast in about 24 hours. The official track forecast through
landfall is very similar to the previous NHC prediction and remains
close to the corrected consensus guidance. After landfall, the
trough to the northwest of the tropical cyclone becomes a cutoff
low, and Helene should turn leftward as it rotates around the low.
In 3-4 days, the system should become a shallow extratropical
cyclone within weaker steering currents.

Helene should be in an atmospheric and oceanic environment over the
eastern Gulf of Mexico that will be very conducive for
strengthening. The system is expected to traverse the Loop Current,
which has especially high oceanic heat content. This, along with
fairly low vertical wind shear and a moist mid- to lower-
tropospheric air mass, should likely result in rapid
intensification before landfall. The official forecast continues
to call for the hurricane to reach category 4 status tomorrow. It
should be noted that the HAFS-A and HAFS-B regional hurricane models
show even more intensification than indicated here.

Helene is forecast to be a large major hurricane when it reaches the
Big Bend coast of Florida. As a result, storm surge, wind, and
rainfall impacts will extend well away from the center and outside
the forecast cone, particularly on the east side. In addition, the
fast forward speed when Helene moves inland will result in a far
inland penetration of strong winds over parts of the southeastern
United States, including strong gusts over higher terrain of the
southern Appalachians. A higher-than-normal gust factor is
indicated in the official forecast while Helene is inland.


KEY MESSAGES:

1. A catastrophic and deadly storm surge is likely along portions
of the Florida Big Bend coast, where inundation could reach as high
as 20 feet above ground level, along with destructive waves. There
is also a danger of life-threatening storm surge along the remainder
of the west coast of the Florida Peninsula. Residents in those
areas should follow advice given by local officials and evacuate if
told to do so.

2. Potentially catastrophic hurricane-force winds are expected
within the eyewall of Helene when it makes landfall in the Florida
Big Bend region late Thursday. Preparations to protect life and
property should be completed by early Thursday before tropical
storm conditions arrive. Damaging and life-threatening
hurricane-force winds, especially in gusts, will penetrate well
inland over portions of northern Florida and southern Georgia late
Thursday and Thursday night where Hurricane Warnings are in effect.
Strong wind gusts are also likely farther north across portions of
northern Georgia and the Carolinas, particularly over the higher
terrain of the southern Appalachians.

3. Catastrophic and life-threatening flash and urban flooding,
including numerous landslides, is expected across portions of the
southern Appalachians through Friday. Considerable to locally
catastrophic flash and urban flooding is likely for northwestern and
northern Florida and the Southeast through Friday. Widespread minor
to moderate river flooding and isolated major river flooding are
likely.

4. Tropical storm conditions are expected over portions of western
Cuba within the Tropical Storm Warning area. Hurricane Helene will
bring heavy rain to portions of the western Caribbean with
potentially significant flooding across western Cuba and the
northeastern Yucatan Peninsula into early Thursday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 26/0300Z 23.1N 86.6W 75 KT 85 MPH
12H 26/1200Z 25.4N 86.1W 95 KT 110 MPH
24H 27/0000Z 29.5N 84.5W 115 KT 130 MPH
36H 27/1200Z 34.3N 84.7W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND
48H 28/0000Z 36.7N 87.1W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
60H 28/1200Z 36.8N 88.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
72H 29/0000Z 36.7N 87.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
96H 30/0000Z 36.7N 84.9W 15 KT 15 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 01/0000Z...DISSIPATED

$$
Forecaster Pasch








Hurricane Helene Advisory Number 11
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092024
1000 PM CDT Wed Sep 25 2024

...HELENE EXPECTED TO BRING CATASTROPHIC WINDS AND STORM SURGES TO
THE NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST...
...PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION...


SUMMARY OF 1000 PM CDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...23.1N 86.6W
ABOUT 425 MI...680 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
ABOUT 465 MI...750 KM SSW OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85 MPH...140 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 360 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...972 MB...28.71 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

The government of Mexico has discontinued the Hurricane and
Tropical Storm Warnings for the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico.

The government of Cuba has discontinued the Hurricane Watch for the
Cuban province of Pinar del Rio.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for...
* Mexico Beach eastward and southward to Flamingo
* Tampa Bay
* Charlotte Harbor

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Anclote River to Mexico Beach

A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* Englewood to Anclote River, including Tampa Bay

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Florida Keys, including the Dry Tortugas
* Flamingo to Anclote River, including Tampa Bay
* West of Mexico Beach to the Okaloosa/Walton County Line
* Flamingo northward to Little River Inlet
* Lake Okeechobee
* Cuban provinces of Artemisa, Pinar del Rio, and the Isle of Youth

A Storm Surge Warning means there is a danger of life-threatening
inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline,
during the next 36 hours in the indicated locations. For a
depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather
Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov. This is a life-threatening situation. Persons
located within these areas should take all necessary actions to
protect life and property from rising water and the potential for
other dangerous conditions. Promptly follow evacuation and other
instructions from local officials.

A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
somewhere within the warning area. A warning is typically issued
36 hours before the anticipated first occurrence of
tropical-storm-force winds, conditions that make outside
preparations difficult or dangerous. Preparations to protect life
and property should be rushed to completion.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area within the next 36 hours.

A Storm Surge Watch means there is a possibility of life-
threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the
coastline, in the indicated locations during the next 48 hours.
For a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather
Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov.

A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area. A watch is typically issued 48 hours
before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical-storm-force
winds, conditions that make outside preparations difficult or
dangerous.

For storm information specific to your area in the United
States, including possible inland watches and warnings, please
monitor products issued by your local National Weather Service
forecast office. For storm information specific to your area
outside of the United States, please monitor products issued by
your national meteorological service.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 1000 PM CDT (0300 UTC), the center of Hurricane Helene was
located near latitude 23.1 North, longitude 86.6 West. Helene is
moving toward the north near 9 mph (15 km/h). A northward or
north-northeastward motion at a faster forward speed is expected
during the next 36 hours. On the forecast track, Helene will move
across the eastern Gulf of Mexico tonight and Thursday and cross the
Florida Big Bend coast Thursday evening. After landfall, Helene is
expected to turn northwestward and slow down over the Tennessee
Valley on Friday and Saturday.

Maximum sustained winds are near 85 mph (140 km/h) with higher
gusts. Strengthening is forecast, and Helene is expected to be a
major hurricane when it reaches the Florida Big Bend coast Thursday
evening. Weakening is expected after landfall, but Helene's fast
forward speed will allow strong, damaging winds, especially in
gusts, to penetrate well inland across the southeastern United
States, including over the higher terrain of the southern
Appalachians.

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 35 miles (55 km) from the
center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 345 miles
(555 km).

The minimum central pressure reported by Hurricane Hunter aircraft
is 972 mb (28.71 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
Key Messages for Helene can be found in the Tropical Cyclone
Discussion under AWIPS header MIATCDAT4 and WMO header WTNT44 KNHC
and on the web at hurricanes.gov/text/MIATCDAT4.shtml

STORM SURGE: The combination of a life-threatening storm surge and
the tide will cause normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded
by rising waters moving inland from the shoreline. The water could
reach the following heights above ground somewhere in the indicated
areas if the peak surge occurs at the time of high tide...

Carrabelle, FL to Suwannee River, FL...15-20 ft
Apalachicola, FL to Carrabelle, FL...10-15 ft
Suwannee River, FL to Chassahowitzka, FL...10-15 ft
Chassahowitzka, FL to Anclote River, FL...8-12 ft
Indian Pass, FL to Apalachicola, FL...6-10 ft
Anclote River, FL to Middle of Longboat Key, FL...5-8 ft
Tampa Bay...5-8 ft
Middle of Longboat Key, FL to Englewood, FL...4-7 ft
East of Mexico Beach, FL to Indian Pass, FL...3-5 ft
Englewood, FL to Flamingo, FL...3-5 ft
Charlotte Harbor...3-5 ft

For a complete depiction of areas at risk of storm surge inundation,
please see the National Weather Service Peak Storm Surge Graphic,
available at hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?peakSurge.

Storm surge could raise water levels by as much as 2 to 4 feet above
normal tide levels in areas of onshore winds along the southern
coast of Pinar del Rio, Cuba, including the Isle of Youth.

Storm surge could raise water levels by as much as 3 to 5 feet above
ground level in areas of onshore winds within the warning area along
the north coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.

WIND: Hurricane conditions are expected within the U.S. hurricane
warning area late Thursday, with tropical storm conditions
beginning Thursday morning. Tropical storm conditions are expected
in southern Florida tonight and will spread northward across the
rest of Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina through Thursday night.

Tropical storm conditions are expected over portions of the warning
area in western Cuba during the next several hours.

RAINFALL: Hurricane Helene is expected to produce total rain
accumulations of 4 to 8 inches over western Cuba, the Cayman Islands
and the northeast Yucatan Peninsula, with isolated totals around 12
inches. This rainfall brings a risk of considerable flooding.

Over portions of the Southeastern U.S. into the Southern
Appalachians, Helene is expected to produce total rain accumulations
of 6 to 12 inches with isolated totals around 18 inches. This
rainfall will likely result in catastrophic and potentially
life-threatening flash and urban flooding, along with significant
river flooding. Numerous landslides are expected in steep terrain
across the southern Appalachians.

For a complete depiction of forecast rainfall associated with
Hurricane Helene, please see the National Weather Service Storm
Total Rainfall Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?rainqpf and the Flash Flood Risk
graphic at hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?ero.

TORNADOES: A tornado or two may occur tonight over parts of Florida.
The risk for tornadoes will increase on Thursday, expanding
northward across Florida into parts of Georgia and South Carolina.

SURF: Swells generated by Helene will affect the southern coast of
Cuba and the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico during the next couple of
days. Swells will spread northward toward the west coast of Florida
and the northeastern Gulf Coast tonight and Thursday. These swells
are likely to cause life-threatening surf and rip current
conditions. Please consult products from your local weather office.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next intermediate advisory at 100 AM CDT.
Next complete advisory at 400 AM CDT.

$$
Forecaster Pasch







Other water levels, like rivers:
https://water.noaa.gov/

Recon:
https://hurricanecity.com/recon/

I see this tide link too for the Tampa area which has a model forecast for water level, but it's in MLLW, another datum you have to convert to compare to the NHC's surge values.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/ofs/tbofs/tbofs.html
As of the forecast as of posting, it would be half a foot below my garage. (up several inches from earlier on that graphic) So many different values that are thrown around for the water level, hard to keep track. Obviously in the Big Bend area, doesn't matter the datum, it will be catastrophic, but for those where the water level is less it's harder to decipher.

My highest water level might be around 1:42am EDT Friday when there is a high tide. (from the earlier tide link) Then normally it would decrease slightly for not much of a low tide and then another high tide at 11am EDT Friday, but by then the water level should be coming down. Tides are of course different everywhere.



New tropical storm in the Atlantic, Isaac. Out mostly in the middle of nowhere. Haven't looked long term in terms of the Azores but 5 day is north of them. Not a threat to Americas. Another area with a high chance of development could impact Azores. And meanwhile, long term GFS as indicated that the tropical could continue to heat up, though it has varied a lot over the past days about where. Just in general, more storms around seem to be likely. The season isn't over yet, not by a long shot. We likely have many storms to come.
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10pm CDT Wed on Helene: 85mph; 972mb; N at 9mph; Expected to bring catastrophic winds & surge to NE Gulf coast - Chris in Tampa, 9/25/2024, 11:23 pm
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