PREDICT's Ensemble Discussion --> Weak development and slow moving next 48 hrs
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JAC on 8/19/2010, 9:25 am
PREDICT Ensemble Discussion
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date(UTC): 2010/08/19 11:35 Author: Ryan Torn Submitted at(UTC): 2010/08/19 12:01 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current Conditions/Review of Yesterday's Forecast: **** Due to computer problems at NCAR, there was no 0000 UTC run, thus the discussion pertains to the 1200 UTC forecast from yesterday.
PGI27L moving to western Caribbean. This system is still not considered in INVEST area by NHC, thus the forecasts of minimal strengthening are accurate. PGI30L still distinct from PGI31L. As in PGI27L, no members have OW values greater than 2. PGI31L shows up as a large region of vorticity. Only about 20% of the ensemble members have OW values greater than 2 for this system. PGI32L appears to be initialized too far SW of the analyzed position. PGI33L is coming through the lateral boundaries of the model.
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DAY 1 (Next 24 hours) Outlook: Although there is a great deal of spread in the timing, PGI27L makes landfall around Belize without any change in intensity. PGI30L weakens as it moves to the west and is difficult to track in most members beyond 0000 UTC 20 August. PGI31L goes from having an elongated region of vorticity to a more circular orientation. At the same time, the number of members with OW values greater than 2 increases to around 45% of the ensemble. As with the analysis, there is a great deal of spread in the position of PGI32L, but no hint at development. PGI33L moves off the African coast, but is not characterized by OW values greater than 2.
Finally, the tail end of the tropical trough north of the ITCZ appears to roll up and become a compact circulation center. By this time, 25% of the ensemble members have OW values greater than 2. This development has been in the ensemble forecasts for the past 3 initialization times that have run; however, this does not appear in many operational forecasts. It is not clear why the ensemble is so aggressive with this system. Currently, there is some convection off the South American coast where this system is to develop, but it does not look like it will happen immediately. I am weary that this system might be a spurious development.
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DAY 2 (24 - 48 hours) Outlook: PGI27L and PGI30L difficult to track. PGI31L still remains around 30W, where roughly 50% of members have OW values greater than 2. No signs of change in the total circulation of the system. PGI32L still characterized by large variability in position, but no OW values greater than 2. PGI33L makes little progress moving off African coast, though roughly 20% of members have OW values greater than 2. Finally, the potentially spurious development SE of the leeward islands strengthens as it moves to the NW. 60% of the members have OW values greater than 2.
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Extended Outlook: PGI31L starts to slowly move westward without much change in intensity. PGI32L difficult to track, though it appears that it merges with the potentially spurious system. PGI33L has moved little and appears to have a similar intensity. The potentially spurious system should be moving over the islands at this point. Based on circulation values, this system is likely a TD by this point.
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31L Looks Good to Go -
JAC,
8/19/2010, 7:08 am- 20% Yellow Box - JAC, 8/19/2010, 3:04 pm
- Forecasted NE-CONUS Cut-Off Low will be the thing to watch for to drive a recurve - JAC, 8/19/2010, 12:47 pm
- wide view - BobbiStorm, 8/19/2010, 8:31 am
- Dead Silence 8AM TWO - JAC, 8/19/2010, 7:48 am
- Globals already initialized - looks like an early recurve - JAC, 8/19/2010, 7:20 am
- PREDICT's Ensemble Discussion --> Weak development and slow moving next 48 hrs - JAC, 8/19/2010, 9:25 am
- NOGAPS - JAC, 8/19/2010, 7:38 am
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