A Noreaster for the Weekend?
Posted by
JAC on 10/13/2009, 7:30 am




PRELIMINARY EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 459 AM EDT TUE OCT 13 2009
WITHIN THE ERN CONUS MEAN TROF... THE DEBATE CONTINUES AS TO WHETHER SRN CANADA/NRN PLAINS FLOW AS OF EARLY DAY 3 FRI WILL ULTIMATELY FORM A CLOSED LOW NEAR THE EAST COAST BY SUN. OPERATIONAL MODELS ARE PROVIDING MIXED SIGNALS WITH THE LAST COUPLE ECMWF RUNS KEEPING THE TROF MORE OPEN THAN SOME EARLIER RUNS... WHILE THE 00Z GFS/UKMET/CMC ALL DEVELOP A CLOSED LOW. THE EXTREMELY FAR SWWD CANADIAN SOLN BY DAY 7 TUE APPEARS UNLIKELY BUT OTHER SOLNS CANNOT BE FULLY DISCOUNTED YET SINCE THEY FIT WITHIN THE MEAN FLOW. A COMPROMISE AMONG MODEL AND SOMEWHAT WEAKER ENSEMBLE MEAN GUIDANCE PROVIDES A REASONABLE STARTING POINT TO ACCOUNT FCST UNCERTAINTY NEAR THE EAST COAST. BEHIND THIS FEATURE... THE GFS IS LIKELY TOO AMPLIFIED WITH FLOW REACHING THE NERN CONUS BY NEXT TUE DUE TO ITS STRONG SOLN WITH THE TROF CROSSING THE WEST.
PRELIMINARY UPDATE...
THE FRONTS AND PRESSURES FOR DAYS 3 THROUGH 7 WERE UPDATED USING A PROGRESSIVE BLEND OF THE 00Z/12 ECMWF TOWARD THE 00Z/12 EC ENSEMBLE MEAN. NONE OF THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS HAVE BEEN PARTICULARLY STABLE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL RUNS...THOUGH THE ECMWF HAS BEEN THE LEAST HERKY JERKY. THE PATTERN IS DECIDEDLY WINTRY OVER THE EAST...WITH VERY COLD HIGH PRESSURE DRAPED ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN CANADA...AND AT LEAST TWO WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE TAKING SWIPES AT THE MID ATLANTIC STATES AND NORTHEAST. THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD WITH THE FIRST WAVE IS LIKELY TO BE SNOW...WITH THE GFS ALGORITHMS SUGGESTING THAT EVEN AREAS AWAY FROM THE APPALACHIANS FROM SOUTH CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA TO THE HILL COUNTRY OF CONNECTICUT AND MASSACHUSETTS MAY SEE SOME WET SNOW. THE SECOND WAVE...ON THE HEELS OF THE FIRST...IS DICIER...WITH THE MEAN PROGS INDICATING THAT IT WILL FORM WELL OUT TO SEA...IF AT ALL. THESE POSITIVE TILT TROUGH DEVELOPMENTS ARE NOTORIOUSLY TRICKY...WITH A SMALL SHIFT IN LONGITUDE OF THE WAVE AMPLIFICATION MAKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RAGING STORM OVER THE WEST WALL OF THE GULF STREAM...OR A DIFFUSELY BAROCLINIC LOW CUTTING OFF NEAR BERMUDA. THE ROCKIES WILL GET A CHINOOK BREAK THIS PERIOD...WHILE THE WEST COAST WELCOMES THE RAINY SEASON WITH EXTENSIVE ONSHORE FLOW FROM EUREKA NORTHWARD.
FINAL...
THE 12Z/12 UKMET IS IN SYNC WITH THE BLEND USED FOR THE UPDATE PACKAGE THROUGH DAY 6...EXCEPT ON DAY 3...WHEN IT IS SLOWER TO SEND THE INITIAL WAVE OFF THE CAROLINA COAST INTO THE ATLANTIC. THE LATEST GEFS MEAN SUPPORTS THE FASTER DAY 3 EMERGENCE OFFSHORE...AND CONSIDERING THE ROBUSTNESS OF A MEAN AT THAT RELATIVELY SHORT TIME RANGE...DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES THERE FOR THE FINAL ISSUANCE. THE 12Z/12 GFS GETS QUITE OUT OF PHASE WITH THE OTHER GUIDANCE ALONG THE EAST COAST EARLY IN THE PERIOD...WITH MAJOR TIMING AND PLACEMENT DIFFERENCES WITH THE COMPLEX EVOLUTION OF THE WAVES ROLLING THROUGH THE UNSEASONABLY SUPPRESSED FLOW.
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A Noreaster for the Weekend? - JAC, 10/13/2009, 7:30 am- Watch MIMIC-TPW for a roll off the coast - JAC, 10/15/2009, 8:11 am
- 1" to 3" NY/PA, 35 knots Cape Cod - JAC, 10/15/2009, 7:55 am
- Re: Local NWS say 3 coastal system from today-Monday - Fred, 10/15/2009, 7:55 am
- Re: A Noreaster for the Weekend? - Fred, 10/14/2009, 8:31 pm
- Re: A Noreaster for the Weekend? - Fred, 10/14/2009, 8:55 am
- Already in the Upper Midwest - JAC, 10/14/2009, 7:55 am
- Coast-to-Coast Winter: Snow for NY & PA, GFS is aggressive on Surface Low - JAC, 10/14/2009, 7:44 am
- Re: A Noreaster for the Weekend? - Fred, 10/14/2009, 7:37 am
- At this point: Cape Cod Saturday Morning - JAC, 10/13/2009, 7:35 am
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