Coast-to-Coast Winter: Snow for NY & PA, GFS is aggressive on Surface Low
Posted by
JAC on 10/14/2009, 7:44 am
SHORT RANGE FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 405 AM EDT WED OCT 14 2009 VALID 12Z WED OCT 14 2009 - 00Z FRI OCT 16 2009 THE RAPIDLY DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OFF THE EAST COAST OF THE U.S. HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BRING SOME UNSEASONAL SNOW TO THE MIDDLE ATLANTIC REGION. IT WILL CERTAINLY BRING MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN TO THE CENTRAL EAST COAST AS WE HEAD INTO THE AFTERNOON ON THURSDAY. BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES WILL BE FELT ACROSS THE MIDDLE ATLANTIC STATES AND NEW YORK. THE POTENTIAL FOR SNOW...OR A RAIN AND SNOW MIX...RESTS ALONG THE NEW YORK AND PENNSYLVANIA STATE LINES FRIDAY EVENING.
IMPORTANT DETAIL ISSUES WITHIN THE DEEP AMPLIFIED TROF INITIALLY OVER ERN NOAM ARE YET TO BE RESOLVED. ENSEMBLES HAVE CONSISTENTLY DISPLAYED ENOUGH SPREAD FOR THEIR MEANS TO MAINTAIN AN OPEN TROF... AND THE UKMET/CANADIAN ARE GENERALLY OPEN AS WELL. HOWEVER THE 00Z GFS/ECMWF BOTH DEVELOP EMBEDDED CLOSED LOWS BY DAY 4 SUN.
THE GFS APPEARS EXCESSIVELY DEEP WITH THE UPPER LOW... RESULTING IN A CORRESPONDING SFC LOW TRACK THAT IS A NWWD OUTLIER COMPARED TO OTHER MODEL/ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE.
REGARDLESS OF EXACTLY HOW THE MID LVL TROF EVOLVES... GEFS MEAN TRENDS APPEAR TO SUPPORT THE RELATIVE CONSENSUS OF OPERATIONAL SOLNS TOWARD A SLOW MOVING SFC LOW OFF THE EAST COAST DURING THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE 12Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN APPEARS TOO PROGRESSIVE RELATIVE TO MOST 00Z GUIDANCE.
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 211 PM EDT TUE OCT 13 2009 VALID 12Z FRI OCT 16 2009 - 12Z TUE OCT 20 2009
PRELIMINARY UPDATE...
THE PRELIMINARY FRONTS AND PRESSURES FOR DAYS 3 THROUGH 7 WERE UPDATED USING THE 00Z/13 ECMWF FOR MUCH OF THE FORECAST PERIOD...WITH A SUBSTANTIAL INCORPORATION OF ITS ATTENDANT ENSEMBLE MEAN BY DAY 7. WHILE NONE OF THE GLOBAL NUMERICAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THE MOST HEARTENING CONTINUITY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL RUNS...THE ECMWF AT LEAST RESEMBLES ITSELF FROM YESTERDAY...PARTICULARLY ALONG THE EAST COAST WHERE THE LONGITUDE OF CYCLOGENESIS HAS GREAT BEARING ON THE CONDITIONS OVER THE MID ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST DURING THE FIRST FEW DAYS.
THE FLOW REGIME IS PURE WINTER...COAST TO COAST...WITH A SPRAWLING...POLAR HIGH BANKED ACROSS SOUTHEAST CANADA FEEDING ENOUGH COLD AIR INTO THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN APPALACHIANS AND THE ADJACENT HIGHER TERRAIN TO PRODUCE SOME SNOW ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD THERE DAYS 3 THROUGH 5.
WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF SOME MOUNTAINTOP IN THE MID ATLANTIC STATES SEES A HEFTY ACCUMULATION DURING THIS TIME.
THE POSITIVE TILT OF THE LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EAST WILL PRECLUDE GULF MOISTURE RETURNING INTO THE CENTRAL STATES...WITH ANY CLIPPER SYSTEMS HAVING TO WORK WITH LIFT ALONE TO PRODUCE MUCH PRECIPITATION. NOW THAT THE PACIFIC FLOOD GATES ARE OPEN...POINTS FARTHER WEST WILL SEE AN UNSETTLED THIRD WEEK OF OCTOBER...WITH THE COASTLINE FROM 40N UP NETTING THE MOST RAINFALL. THE SOUTHWEST WILL REMAIN REMOVED FROM THE FRAY...TUCKED SAFELY WITHIN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE.
FINAL...
DESPITE THE MORE AMPLIFIED SOLUTION OF THE 12Z/13 GFS...THE NEW GUIDANCE OVERALL SPELLS LESS OF A THREAT OF PROLONGED PRECIPITATION OVER THE UPCOMING WEEKEND FOR THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...AND HENCE...LESS OF A CHANCE OF HEAVY SNOW THERE. THE GEM GLOBAL IS CLOSE TO THE SOLUTION WHICH INFORMED THE UPDATE PACKAGE...WITH THE UKMET TRENDING STRONGLY TOWARD IT BY DAYS 5 AND 6 WITH ITS MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE SOLUTION OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. STILL FEEL THAT THE WESTERN STATES ARE WELL COVERED BY THE PRELIMINARY UPDATE.

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A Noreaster for the Weekend? -
JAC,
10/13/2009, 7:30 am- Watch MIMIC-TPW for a roll off the coast - JAC, 10/15/2009, 8:11 am
- 1" to 3" NY/PA, 35 knots Cape Cod - JAC, 10/15/2009, 7:55 am
- Re: Local NWS say 3 coastal system from today-Monday - Fred, 10/15/2009, 7:55 am
- Re: A Noreaster for the Weekend? - Fred, 10/14/2009, 8:31 pm
- Re: A Noreaster for the Weekend? - Fred, 10/14/2009, 8:55 am
- Already in the Upper Midwest - JAC, 10/14/2009, 7:55 am
- Coast-to-Coast Winter: Snow for NY & PA, GFS is aggressive on Surface Low - JAC, 10/14/2009, 7:44 am
- Re: A Noreaster for the Weekend? - Fred, 10/14/2009, 7:37 am
- At this point: Cape Cod Saturday Morning - JAC, 10/13/2009, 7:35 am
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