CDC allows second updated vaccine dose for people 65 years and older; Also additional doses for immunocompromised
Posted by Chris in Tampa on 4/20/2023, 4:09 am
"CDC simplifies COVID-19 vaccine recommendations, allows older adults and immunocompromised adults to get second dose of the updated vaccine":
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2023/s0419-covid-vaccines.html

Following FDA regulatory action, CDC has taken steps to simplify COVID-19 vaccine recommendations and allow more flexibility for people at higher risk who want the option of added protection from additional COVID-19 vaccine doses.

CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) met today to discuss these COVID-19 vaccine recommendation changes, and the associated implications and implementation. Although there was no vote at this meeting, ACIP members expressed their support for these recommendations.

These changes include:
  • CDC's new recommendations allow an additional updated (bivalent) vaccine dose for adults ages 65 years and older and additional doses for people who are immunocompromised. This allows more flexibility for healthcare providers to administer additional doses to immunocompromised patients as needed.
  • Monovalent (original) COVID-19 mRNA COVID-19 vaccines will no longer be recommended for use in the United States.
  • CDC recommends that everyone ages 6 years and older receive an updated (bivalent) mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, regardless of whether they previously completed their (monovalent) primary series.
  • Individuals ages 6 years and older who have already received an updated mRNA vaccine do not need to take any action unless they are 65 years or older or immunocompromised.
  • For young children, multiple doses continue to be recommended and will vary by age, vaccine, and which vaccines were previously received.
Alternatives to mRNA COVID-19 vaccines remain available for people who cannot or will not receive an mRNA vaccine. CDC's recommendations for use of (monovalent) Novavax or Johnson & Johnson's Janssen COVID-19 vaccines were not affected by the changes made today.

CDC and ACIP will continue to monitor COVID-19 disease levels and vaccine effectiveness in the months ahead and look forward to additional discussion around potential updates this fall.

There are various news articles on this.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cdc+coronavirus&tbm=nws

The CDC didn't vote, but apparently the second updated dose will now be allowed. In the coming days we will have to see what the availability is. I wish they would just allow everyone to get it from now on every 6 months. If someone eligible now got it, could you get another one in time for fall/winter later this year? If you could, then it's a good idea to get it now. If you won't be able to, it might make some people wait. At certain times of the year the virus might be worse and the protection it offers wanes after awhile. It's hard to know if you should try to time it to try to get it before when the virus might be more likely to be worse. If you always knew you could get it regularly, that would be less of an issue.

For those immunocompromised, you may be able to get doses at an interval that your doctor recommends.

From a Washington Post article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/04/19/fda-second-bivalent-booster/

Should I get a second bivalent booster?

If you are at least 65 and received your first bivalent booster at least four months ago, you are eligible to get a second one. The CDC says there are about 20 million adults in this age group who received a booster at least four months ago.

If you are immunocompromised and received a bivalent booster at least two months ago, you are also eligible to get a second one. People with weak immune systems can receive additional doses at intervals decided by their doctors. These include people who have received organ or stem cell transplants, people with advanced or untreated HIV infection, people undergoing treatment for cancer and people who are taking certain medications that weaken the immune system.

Eligibility for extra doses for immunocompromised children 6 months through 4 years old will depend on which vaccine they have already received.


It really comes down to money I think in how often you can get the vaccine. Who is paying for it at this point? I assume insurance will pay if you have it? But how often? And if you don't have insurance, do you have to pay it?

I did a little searching and found an article from February 2023 that said that Moderna for example will continue to make the vaccine available for free, at least for now.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/moderna-covid-vaccine-remain-free-consumers-uninsured/story?id=97226324

"Moderna remains committed to ensuring that people in the United States will have access to our COVID-19 vaccines regardless of ability to pay," the company wrote in its statement.

"Moderna's COVID-19 vaccines will continue to be available at no cost for insured people whether they receive them at their doctors' offices or local pharmacies. For uninsured or underinsured people, Moderna's patient assistance program will provide COVID-19 vaccines at no cost" after the public health emergency expires.

But for how long really? And how often? So far, when I have gotten the boosters, it's been more of an honor system when it comes to whether you are eligible for a shot. If you say you are, they give you one. With the government, other than maybe those on Medicare, likely not paying for it soon, or maybe already, I would imagine some places might be verifying things more. My dad should be eligible through Medicare, but when I am eventually eligible I'm not sure if my insurance would pay or not. Maybe they would once per year? I don't know. Not sure about those who are immunocompromised that might get doses more often than that.

It will all depend on your insurance company perhaps and if you don't have insurance I don't know if you would pay upfront in some cases and get reimbursed or if the provider giving you the shot works it out. I guess for those that want to continue to get the shots we'll need to figure it out each time.



CDC says the number of people with an updated booster is 17.8% (age 5 and older; as of April 12th, 2023):
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/index.html

With less people having gotten an updated booster, it will likely mean that increasingly people will be more likely to get the virus as immunity wanes from doses they got a long time ago. We have less virus circulating than some of the worst waves because of the vaccines. As the immunity wanes in those who aren't getting boosted, we don't really know how much more the virus might spread again. To have a higher level of immunity out there you either have people vaccinated relatively recently or have people who actually got the virus at some point recently. (so that maybe the virus spreads less by not being able to infect as many people once a lot of people have some level of immunity) And getting the virus isn't the way to then have some level of immunity after that. (that's dangerous for yourself and maybe those around you, especially those more vulnerable) The more people who do it that way make it more likely for some new variant to appear, that could potentially be worse than whatever variant is going around at the time.

I know most people don't wear a mask now, a vast majority don't from what I see around here in Tampa, but I still do. I rarely see someone wearing a mask when out. It's been that way for a long time. I would guess over 95% are not wearing a mask here. (probably higher) Only 17.8% have the updated booster. A big gap there. I still wear a mask. But for those that don't wear a mask, you certainly should have had an updated booster by now. Most especially if you're around someone that is at greater risk. (and wear a mask too around those people)

Weekly deaths are at an all time low for the pandemic (other than the first several weeks of the pandemic when it was just getting started) for the last week reported at the CDC:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00
1,327 in the U.S. (Apr 12, 2023)



They peak during the winter and have a low during the summer usually. Hopefully we continue the trend and maybe have a lower peak than even this year's peak for winter later in the year, but I think it all depends on people getting the updated boosters.
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